Chord simplification

[Ruscolinni]

Hi folks. I'm new here. Loving iRealb. Had a question about chord input. If I enter a Bb-7 chord into a new tune, it sometimes shows up as the enharmonic spelling of A#-7 when transposed. Is there a way (like in finale) where you can simplify chord spellings so you can read practical spellings?

Thanks!

[dflat]

We have looked at this a few times but it is reasonably complex. As you might realize, just replacing a single chord (letter) with the other (Cb to B, A# to Bb etc.) has to take into account II-V-I progressions, any other previous or following transpositions/progressions, the key (or not), and perhaps the transposing instrument.
If it is a specific transpose you use regularly, you can lock the song in that key (song edit>info) and enharmonically change any chords needed (however you might need to have the transposing instrument set to C otherwise it will transpose again.)

We do hope to spend more time on this in the future. Thanks for your thoughts.

[BruceCassidy]

Hi

First, thak you and congratulations on this app! It is great and I'm turning my students on to it.

Regarding transpositions; Perhaps some kind of 'unlocking' would work. I'm not a coder so this may not make any sense. It is the sharps that seem to be the problem for Bb instruments (I haven't looked at Eb transpositions as I play a Bb horn) The II V's can become mixed the way it is now and it is really strange to see a D# or G# major chord.

[Bligon]

Set up in C.

C#°7 [vii°7/ii] and D#°7 [vii°7/iii] are correct



Transposed to F.



Gb°7 and Ab°7 should be F#°7 & G#°7. iReal transposes all other functional chords correctly.

Why can’t it transpose these secondary vii°7 chords sensibly?

Does iReal think that G♭°7 and A♭°7 are somehow simplifications?

F#°7 is vii°7 in Gm [2 flats] G♭°7 is vii°7 in A♭♭ minor [14 flats!].

F#°7 = F#–A–C –Eb. G♭°7 = G♭–B♭♭–D♭♭–F♭♭. This does not look like a simplification.

G#°7 is vii°7 in Am [NO sharps or flats] A♭°7 is vii°7 in B♭♭ minor [12 flats!].

G#°7 = G#–B–D–F. A♭°7 = A♭–C♭–E♭♭–G♭♭. In no way could that be a simplification.

Is there a way around this?